Local Indie Bands Sud, Jensen and the Flips Face Sexual Misconduct Accusations

Is this the series of tweets that could be the beginning of our own Weinsteingate?
At 7:24 p.m., Twitter user Adrienne Onday, who goes by the handle @_tapsilog, posted a long series of tweets about the sexual misconduct and misogyny that seems to be ingrained in the scene. The thread included screenshots of conversations with alleged victims involved in numerous incidents:
Kadiri talaga kayo. Sobrang kadiri.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Reuploaded. pic.twitter.com/uGLDbS8d8r
Hello ulit kay Sud???? pic.twitter.com/b2l78YDbHc
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
ISA PANG KAWAY KAY JENSEN DIYAN pic.twitter.com/8SOJWV1EGR
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
We reached out to Onday, a Sociology undergrad at the University of the Philippines, and she tells us that the thread "is partly inspired from the latest exposés on Twitter and partly a pent-up guilt and anger on my part...I was in the scene and I personally experienced and saw and heard so many of these gross comments, actions, and behaviors from people I considered friends. As a student of sociology and a human rights advocate, it drove me crazy that I considered these people friends and was so scared to lose them that I didn’t speak up immediately."
She continues: "I drew the line last night because I simply couldn’t take it anymore. I can’t call myself a feminist and HR advocate if I didn’t do what I knew I should have done before—especially since I myself knew the disgusting things members of bands did. I didn’t realize they have done worse, and it’s only due to other users that I learned of their worse actions."
Musicians named in the thread include Carlo Maraingan (third from left), Jensen Gomez (center), and Samuel Valenia (rightmost)
In the thread, Onday names members of the band Jensen and the Flips, including frontman Jensen Gomez, percussionist Carlo Maraingan, and guitarist Sam Valenia. Later, the thread also includes mention of incidents involving Sud Ballecer and Jimbo Cuenco of the band Sud, and references an earlier controversy revolving around a cover they did for PULP magazine.
In case you haven't seen it, here are all of Onday's tweets:
I want to talk about misogyny, sexism, and predatory/manipulative behavior in the local independent music scene in my experiece.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
People who have been following me before 2016-2017 aka my thesis year know that I was quite deeply embedded in the local music scene before. I went to gigs quite often (at least once a month for me), was friends with lots of musicians and artists, etc.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Hell, my thesis was about the local indie music scene. That’s how much I love local music and our urban culture.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
But since 2016, I have had to distance myself from the scene for many reasons.
It really started with the carboard protest. I wasn’t allowed to go out late at night and alone because I was at high security risk, what with the publicity. Aside from that, I also started doing my thesis in 2016. I prioritized my academics, of course.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
But here’s also one of the big reasons I really distanced myself: I found that continuing to actively and persistently support a scene which looks positive on the surface but actually has a disgusting underbelly felt hypocritical and unethical for me.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I got into the indie scene when I was around 15. I started actively attending gigs when I was 16 until I was 18. I was pretty young when I got into it but I’m not trying to discredit myself nor play innocent. I simply didn’t know better because I was inexperienced and unexposed.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I wasn’t a groupie—I didn’t want to hang around with bands to get with them, sleep with them or gain perks. I just wanted to be good friends with the people who made music I genuinely enjoyed. They were inspiring for me. Sino ba namang di gaganahan pag na-recognize ng idols nila?
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
But also note: I was younger then, less exposed. I was new to college, and my first year was spent in UPLB back when indie music wasn’t a big popular thing so we didn’t really get these acts there back then. I was new to feminism, new to understanding misogyny and sexism.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I didn’t really know what taking advantage of me looked like when I was faced with it because I didn’t really think that ever happened to me before. When you’re the one in the situation, it’s much harder to recognize it, to call it out, to judge objectively.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
But god damn—a lot of these people took advantage of others. Not just of me, but of other people, OTHER GIRLS AND WOMEN (yes because some of them were fucking minors!!!) AS WELL.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
And you know what these men use to their advantage? Their looks. Their talent. Their status.
They think—and know, the way our society is now—that just because they’re “good-looking” (debatable) “skilled” (applicable to some) MUSICIANS (which people must think is hot, because art), they can get away with anything. Sila yung may pangalan (ish), sila yung may backing.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Pag may nagsalita against them, LALO PA NGAYON NA MALAKI ANG “INDIE” MUSIC (kasi let’s face it some of these people are signed to major labels na), walang maniniwala kasi:
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
1. Sikat sila.
2. They can just get their hordes of fans (usually also girls) to discredit victims.
Here is where the tweets begin to spill the details:
I have seen and heard of how band members interact with female fans. Pag trip nila, touchy at persistent. Pag ayaw, polite (maybe even genuine) tolerance and friendship.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I have seen band members openly ogle at women’s breasts.
I have personally heard the remarks they make.
Band members sometimes have quick little interactions (whispering, touching of arms, signals) to tell each other, “pare, hot no’n” or “malaki joga” or “mukhang easy” or similar disgusting comments.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
And these men—they literally kiss and tell. Over beer, after sets, backstage.
These people—they’re my friends: both the band members who have said such comments, and the women/girls they have made these comments about.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I cannot remember how many times I’ve had to protect my friends by claiming that they are minors. Sometimes even that doesn’t deter them.
What they’re also guilty of doing (and they do this quite a lot) is taking advantage of their fans to get them to do over-the-top or sexual favors and acts.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Pag nakuha na yung gusto nila sa ‘yo, BYE. Kunwari walang nangyari. At kung sex yun, ikukuwento pa nila sa kabanda nila.
Hindi lang sexual acts ang meron though. Meron ding iba na blatant exploitation of labor and skills. A lot of fans siyempre love to give their idols stuff as support. Prerogative nila yun. Pero after may iba talaga na mamumuro at hihingan ka ng output nang walang compensation.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Ewan ko. Siguro nasa free will at consent pa rin talaga ng tao ‘to pero these men have a certain charisma or whatever—basta may something—that makes you think na hindi ka ine-exploit? Na ginusto mo naman yan so okay lang. Which lol we usually hear in cases of rape and harassment.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
A lot of girls (usually talaga mas bata because come on a lot of these band members are FUCKING OLD) and women think na okay lang na ibigay nila yung hinihingi. Unfortunately, that’s not the most level-headed they can be. Nabubulag nga kasi ng “omg idol ko pinapansin ako!!!”
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I had that mindset before. I’m glad I grew out of that AND got exposed to the world AND learned more about feminism AND gained a little bit of self-respect. Nakakabulag talaga pag good side lang ang nakikita natin. Eh showbiz pa ‘to, kaya laging good side lang.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I’m not saying these people are 100% pure evil though. I am friends with some of them and I can say na di sila laging demonyo. Pero baboy at bastos talaga ang tingin at trato nila sa mga babae.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Di pa sa lahat ng babae, kasi may pinipili sila. Pag long-term friend, usually bawal.
Di porket di lahat ng babae ang ginagano’n nila, though, ibig sabihin pwede nang sabihing sa *ilang* babae lang sila baboy. Yes or no question na ‘to. Bastos at baboy ka ba sa babae? Walang gray area dito. Black and white ang sagot sa tanong. (EYYYY)
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Here, the thread talks about members of the band Sud, and about their controversial PULP cover:
Na-reference ko na rin. Naalala ninyo yung issue ng SUD about male gaze, objectification, and fetishization of LGBT+? How both the band and Pulp handled it?
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
I wonder today if Vernon Go teaches his son to tell people to kill themselves when he gets into arguments he’ll lose.
And then about Jensen Gomez of the band Jensen and the Flips:
Isang experience ko pang naalala: dati, December of 2014 yata ito? Basta 17 pa ako nito. Nag-reply ako dati sa tweet ni Jensen tapos ang reply niya sa akin for some reason ay “????????????????”. Uncalled for yung response at sobrang sketchy. Is it considered a sexual comment? Possibly.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
One time I got groped on the way to my friend’s wake. Sobrang galit at takot ako no’n and I sought comfort and encouragement from my friends. When I was expressing my anger at society, my friend Ian told me, “Addie nakakatawa ka. Akala ko ba pinag-uusapan natin yung kasalukuyan?”
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
It’s also troubling to recognize that these bands became famous not just for their music but for their faces as well, for their sex.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Some bands pride themselves for becoming famous kasi “teknikal”/“magaling” yung music nila as if their fans (mostly girls/women+knowing na wala namang solid music ed dito) knew what the theory, etc. are. Pero they ignore the fact na kaya rin sila pumapatok eh dahil “pogi” sila.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
What sells today for a lot of people? It’s not really technicality, I think. It’s lyricism (aka hugot) and looks. Even my literature in sociology of music says this. It’s why MTV is rarely substantial music anymore.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
May mga kwento rin akong alam na sobrang gusto ko nang i-namedrop pero 1) hindi ko kasi kwento to share 2) kailangan ng consent to do that 3) important ang safety and security ng victims kaya di ko masabi.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Sobrang gusto kong sabihin pero confidentiality and security is important
Okay dapat talaga sarili ko lang experiences itong thread na ‘to but some friends and other girls/women have DM’d me screenshots (yung iba di ko pwede ilabas kasi malalaman sino yung nabastos). I hope this helps others with the same experience in any way to come out and speak up.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
AYUN. Hi Jensen, kung makikita mo man ‘to. That’s gross. You’re gross. pic.twitter.com/WwflXWFNVD
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
What kind of person who respects women does that, anong level ng kawalan ng accountability ito pic.twitter.com/jy8SXi4rUc
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Jensen and The Flips whomst’d’ve???? This is like attempted rape right??? pic.twitter.com/n3QpvTJUtB
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
ISA PANG KAWAY KAY JENSEN DIYAN pic.twitter.com/8SOJWV1EGR
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Kadiri talaga kayo. Sobrang kadiri.
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Reuploaded. pic.twitter.com/uGLDbS8d8r
And again about Sud:
Dagdag: Hi Sud. pic.twitter.com/UxGOGogxWv
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
Hello ulit kay Sud???? pic.twitter.com/b2l78YDbHc
— MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR TUTA MARCOS HITLER DIKTADOR (@_tapsilog) November 21, 2017
The original tweet has since garnered almost 4,800 Likes and has been retweeted over 2,440 times as of this writing. The backlash against some of the accused band members came swiftly:
— The Rest Is Noise PH (@therestisnoise_) November 22, 2017
Red Ninja Productions, which has partnered up with The Rest is Noise for the year-end gigs, also released this statement:
"As a production run mostly by women, we have been striving to show our community that we are strong and independent: that we can make a difference not because of gender, but because we are all equal.
We believe that each person should be treated with respect, and has the right to voice out their thoughts and feelings. We commend those who are brave enough to come forward and raise these issues. We have your back and will try to continually create a community with a safe environment.
We are currently trying to gather more information and speak to the parties involved, but sexual assault and harassment is something that is definitely not ever going to be tolerated in Red Ninja.
At the end of the day, while these issues aren't unique to the independent music scene, we hope that this can eventually serve as a catalyst for everyone in it to learn, be better, more aware and more accountable."
In the wake of the accusations, Jensen and the Flips issued an official statement on their Facebook page:
The band Sud also recently posted this statement on their page:
After Harvey Weinstein opened the floodgates, there's been a tsunami of allegations against celebrities—so this new development has people paying attention for what it might mean to the entire industry. Already, there are a number of musicians and bands named in the thread, with commenters and screenshots about incidents involving them. The worst thing, perhaps, is that no one seems particularly surprised at the allegations.
But while there is little surprise, many are also glad that this may pave the way for justice. "I'm glad women are speaking out—it's not easy to have done what [Adrienne Onday] did, and what these other women did. These are serious allegations, and the accused should be held accountable," says musician Vin Dancel, who is both a veteran of the local indie music scene and a lawyer.
He also advises caution. "The difference between the Weinstein allegations and this one is that the accusers have made official statements, and I hope that happens in this case, too. There are organizations out there that can help with counseling or legal advice. What we don't want to happen is that this turns into a witch hunt where people are only accused and tried on social media," he says. "I'm sure these people exist, and that they're being outed. I hope this kind of guys are held accountable."
November 23, 2017, 2:50p.m. This article has been updated to reflect the bands' statements.